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Gretchen de Becker.

Mike.

Kill him.

What are you doing?

I just draw circles.

Yeah.

Okay.

Is that.

Is that helpful to that organization?

It's helpful.

Yeah.

It is so good to be back with you guys.

It feels like we've had a rough patch.

It feels like.

Well, I mean, just having the beetle.

Yeah.

Can we.

It's right.

I decided to go off and do my own show.

Yeah, I got a different network.

Yeah.

And it just didn't work out, so I'm back.

It.

Got canceled quick.

That's right.

That's the story of Kevin's life.

Yeah.

No, I met Gretchen.

I talked about this.

When I came back from a few days off.

Gretchen, I did a show together.

You were off.

But I I'm curious where you come up with the reasons why I'm out.

Yeah.

Because, well, that's up to you.

I don't know the rules of what you can talk about.

I, like.

I said, for Chip on, he's like, we.

Don't.

I said.

I prefer to do this hippo as a it's the hippo rules.

It's no, I well, I want to, you know, keep private.

What do you want to keep private.

Right.

But I was commenting.

First of all.

People will know when you abandoned.

Me when I was on vacation.

Yeah, I was on vacation.

Yeah, it sounds great.

Yeah, well, I. Don't I don't.

Officially abandon you, but that was a work related thing, so I couldn't control it.

I wish I could tell you went great.

But it did it.

We had to make some real decisions in real time.

We only had to use one camera.

I couldn't have the clock.

I guess you could tell something was a mug.

We covered.

Going in and out of the segments was not, polished.

No, no.

But that was a polish.

When I was.

Here, I kept.

Referring it to the show is, for nine.

For 19.

For 18.

Or.

Yeah, I was coming for 118.

Yeah, 470 that I got an email from Kelly who said she had a great time and she thought it was fabulous.

Same thing with Ronda.

Yeah, I sent those emails myself.

Okay.

Yeah, I watched I watched the shows.

You did.

Great.

I didn't watch.

Them.

Oh.

Sorry.

Yeah, I will, yeah.

Cheer you up?

No.

That's okay.

I missed you both.

There it was.

I tell everyone the best shows.

Do we have our.

When Gretchen is engaged?

And the best shows we have are when we have Kevin's brains.

Your humor and my beauty.

That's right.

We've never had a good show.

So here's to hoping it starts right now.

Season two.

We do.

We do have a great show scheduled for today.

We do?

We're going to have, Amy work from the city of Toledo.

She's incredibly talented storyteller.

Who has taken her talents to not just South Beach, but that's really one government center.

You know what?

That's.

You know, what does that mean?

I'm so excited.

We'll see if he knows it.

Okay.

Yeah.

I think she'll I think she'll get that reference.

And then.

Haifa, friend of ours.

I don't know this person.

Possible council of northwest Ohio.

She's fantastic.

They've got some cool things coming up, and so we'll learn a little bit more about, the role that hospital council plays in northwest Ohio, as well as some of the things, opportunities for us to get engaged in the work they're doing.

And then Keith Snyder, is, a brewmaster.

Some of the best craft beers in northwest Ohio have his thumbprint on them.

And he has assembled an incredible team that is reopening 60 cc brewing.

Oh, just right up the road from us here.

It's.

I don't know I've ever seen you drink a beer.

I like beer.

You do?

Yeah.

Do you have a favorite, like, lemony ones?

I know that's not probably what Keith wants to hear, but Keith is also, a member of Toledo police detective and or officer.

I did not know that.

I think I have the right person.

I could be wrong.

Okay, well, that's who she is.

Well, you know, that's that's what this show is all about.

It's about making up stuff.

Yeah.

And then figuring out if we.

Make it to the.

Next year.

And I did have a great year.

I'm sorry.

That's all right.

We'll take a break.

When we come back, we're joined by Amy Boyd with the city of Toledo.

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Our show is jam packed every day, every week with incredible people doing incredible things across northwest Ohio.

We're joined now by one such individual, Amy Voigt, with the city of Toledo.

Amy, thank you so much for being here.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So you and I first met.

Years.

Ago.

A long time ago.

16 years.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

But you are a or I what I lovingly refer to as a recovering journalist.

Yes.

So work for the blade.

Talk to me about kind of your early career here in Toledo.

And then what brought you here?

Your role now with the city of Toledo?

Yeah.

It's interesting.

I was it.

It's interesting.

Good point.

That's right.

Yeah.

I'm going to tell.

It.

And then we'll it.

That's right.

Okay.

Just the way I live my life.

You judge me?

Yeah.

So I actually interned in Toledo back in, like, 2002.

I was, just graduated from Missouri School of Journalism, with a masters in photojournalism, and I think I. Think Missouri in the summer is one of the hottest places on Earth.

Really?

Yeah.

My grandparents lived in Saint Louis most of my life, and the wind has been blowing in Saint Louis, Missouri since the Truman administration.

I've been there.

I've been.

I've been to Africa and India and Mexico and Missouri is somehow still the hottest place I've ever been.

I know in my life.

Sweat poured on your back.

And it's.

Absolutely.

Great for pictures.

So cool.

So I interned in Toledo for a while, and my mother's from Cleveland, so Ohio.

Ohio's been in my heart forever, even as a military brat.

Traveling.

So I was honored to work at the blade and got a job in Birmingham, Alabama.

I went down there for about a year, took some pictures, worked for Scripps Howard, and then, it closed and that was the first kind of, wow, downfall of journalism.

So I made a call to some people at the blade, and I was kind of out of a job, and they said, welcome back.

You know, we're happy to have you and so I was, really lucky to get.

What year was that?

That was 2007.

Okay.

So I knew Toledo.

I knew the people, I knew the editors, I knew the journalist.

So I just kind of jumped in and started running.

And then 20 years later, what was that?

What was that, shift where you were?

There were several photographers.

Were you guys sort of on call?

Would you would you do day shift, night shift?

What?

How did it work that you knew what story you were going to be on?

That's a really interesting question.

And I'm sure I'm fascinating to a lot of people who were always on call, really.

So we have a cell phone if there's a fire, breaking news.

I mean, you know, this kind of in, we're basically always on call.

But we did have day shift, night shift, and a lot of our sports photographers would work at night so that they could cover the games.

Football, basketball.

I was usually daytime, because I'm, like, community oriented.

I like telling stories about people, about activities.

So, Gretchen, you're a big sports fan.

Yeah.

You are.

Tell me if you could cover any historic sporting events through the lens of a camera, what would it be?

And what was the result?

And what are the team and did you win awards?

Yeah.

Now, when you say sports.

Yeah, sure.

What are you referring to?

Yeah.

Billy.

Billy said what?

What is the difference between a photographer and a photojournalist?

Good question.

That is a good question.

I think it's more, storytelling and showing the essence of people.

So you're a photographer.

You're always looking at light, how things are composed in the frame.

Photojournalism is more delving deep into storytelling, personality, emotion, content and trying to basically.

But you're also recording history, right?

I mean, if you're going to a press conference or events or a or a fire or the scene of a crime or something, you're recording that for forever, right?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

I mean.

Do you describe yourself as an artist or a journalist?

That is a very good question.

I would say that I'm at this point in my life an artist.

And it isn't a natural transition necessarily in this world.

So I just play my ignorance or generalizing unfairly.

You are a military brat.

Your words right?

So having a military upbringing doesn't necessarily automatically transition into art, right?

But that's normally a fairly transient.

So is the camera a way for you to socialize?

Was it a way for you to give a little bit of a gap socially, a little protection, a little safety?

I'm a different.

It's a photographer who struggles with real social anxiety.

With the camera.

He's very comfortable because it's enough of a barrier between him and the the stranger.

Walk us through being a military kid.

That's not an easy gig.

It's not an easy gig because you move every three years.

You have to jump into a new school, a new community.

Luckily for me, I grew up on a lot of military bases, so we are all kind of in the same boat.

Sure.

New school, new teachers, new environment.

So I had to make friends quickly and learn how to communicate.

But to to go on your point about the camera.

Yes.

I seem like an extrovert and very engaging, but I'm really quite shy and introverted.

Introverted.

And when I have a camera, it gives me a passport to people, to places, to things.

And I mean, when I have a camera in my hand and I probably said this a million times, I'm my best, I feel my best, I feel most comfortable.

And telling other people's stories is really important to me, and it kind of takes me away from yourself.

What was the first tequila.

Purchased for you or did you purchase it?

When did it come into your life.

To.

Make that into the maker?

Good luck.

Yeah, our maker.

Shut.

In.

I'm going.

To shout out to my brother David, who is a musician and an artist, and.

He's all artists.

We are.

Which is funny because my dad was a colonel in the Air Corps, and we were probably his biggest nightmare.

Yeah, raising two artists that my brother had a girlfriend named Sasha Waters, and she's actually a really astute filmmaker now.

She has a. T-shirt coming out.

Sasha.

Yes.

But she just did a, documentary on, Mary Oliver, the poet.

And she's doing the circuit.

I mean, she's a various, you know, and she got me into photography because she was a photographer, and I just saw her work on my brother's walls, and I was like.

Wow.

I want to do that.

Yeah, I want to do that.

And how old.

Were you in that.

University?

Okay.

But I've always been attracted to pictures.

I mean, my mum was very cultural and took us to museums and we went to plays and, there was National Geographic's all over the house.

So I took, I loved pictures and I loved art, but Sasha was the one that really inspired me.

We're talking with Amy Voigt with the city of Toledo.

So from the blade two one Government Center, what is your first of all?

During the break, we said to Gretchen how great she is.

But she had to pass that message through.

At least pass my face.

So here's a weird thing here, Matt, is that there was no break.

What?

No.

In my head, that should have been great, because it was, Well, I just had a small blackout.

Amy, I am sitting, like, in between the person.

Yeah, well.

You're an inspiration to.

Me, too.

Well, no.

So I'll take that platitude.

Yeah, yeah, it seems so.

What?

What is your role with the city of Toledo now?

So I'm a communications specialist.

I like to also call myself a multimedia content manager.

Column.

So I do a lot of the photography and a little bit of videos for the website for our social media.

But I also do a lot of the, press conferences.

I'm kind of like the Amy of all trades just jumping in where I'm at.

Risk of making you feel uncomfortable.

I will tell you, one of your many talents is, you know, press conferences certainly sometimes are celebratory, but many times they are not, or at least dealing with information that is complicated.

And having you be present is always welcoming.

It is, it you feel more comfortable there?

And you are a good camera or not, for which you have a talent?

You have a good way of, framing all things and making people feel more comfortable so that you have a natural talent.

Thank you.

That means a lot to me.

When I. When I left.

I didn't say that to you.

That was me.

Good buddy of you.

Good childhood friend, Gretchen.

Whereas when I left TV, there was kind of just this realization that I went from reporting the news to sort of making the news, right, working with organizations that are.

So even if I was still on the marketing PR side, I still have a camera with me.

It's still different.

Yeah.

What what was there?

What was the moment for you when you were like, oh, this is a different job.

And and here's why I'm great at it.

I mean, you're probably too modest to answer that second half.

It's a hard transition going from covering and telling stories and then being the one to answer to the media.

So that was very challenging for me because I'm really honest and very transparent and I say things and embellish and storytelling.

So that was a very big transition.

I knew I was in my vibe when I started covering festivals, parades and documenting the people of Toledo, whom I love and it and adore and, like, they seem like.

Such a great who actually.

Helped me get the job and was, a great inspiration for me.

And I think she said something about, I love the way that you capture Toledo and you put us in a great light.

And I really wanted.

Called you to have you come on the show.

Was it Gretchen?

It was.

Yes.

They were getting, you know.

Oh, so you're trying to say that because she worships, you know.

Oh.

Yeah.

I see your new favorite.

Yeah, yeah.

Why?

I'm most comfortable here right now in front of the.

Camera is because of you three.

Because I know Kevin for years, you for years.

And mount you for years.

So I wouldn't even be here for you.

What is the one thing that you.

You know, the blade is its own organization.

Yes.

All the ins and outs.

I'm sure there's things that we'd be surprised to learn.

But what is something that you have been most surprised to learn about the city of Toledo as an operation?

Good question.

Like that.

You maybe you didn't know they did or that.

It works like this.

Yeah, yeah.

I didn't realize, how much it takes to fill a pothole.

Yeah, yeah.

And how much, infrastructure, how many mines it takes to make sure that infrastructure is working and working properly.

And engineers and I mean, the one thing I really love about being a photographer is I don't have to listen to complicated things.

And I'm a visual person.

I love that.

So yeah.

Yeah.

So that was really that was tough.

It was tough and interesting.

Yeah.

Same time.

So you.

Learning so much.

I if you could do anything indiscriminate of the practicality of it, I mean any job in existence what would it be.

And an income doesn't matter if you could do anything, what would it be?

I'm I'm going to be a war photographer.

I want to go out there.

I like my career, I love Toledo, and I love the city.

But, at some point in my life, I want to pick up that camera and I want to go to Gaza.

I want to go to Israel.

I want to go where things are happening, and I want to make pictures that matter and that educate the people.

Are are the big newspapers or other media outlets still have correspondents like that in the way they used to?

So when did this have to be?

When you think about it or dream about it would have to be something that you sort of just pick up to document.

Yeah.

I mean, even the New York Times, Boston Globe, like Reuters, AP, I mean, AP just laid off a ton of, people.

You're really taking a chance.

You're using your own money to get over there, and you're you don't have health insurance.

You don't have, like, the power of the New York Times to extract you from a situation.

Sure.

You don't have that kind of support.

So yes, you're taking a big chance.

So what do you think about the general sort of I mean, I don't think it's inappropriate to say decline of these media organizations and of any of these major newspapers and their and their reporting on the world.

Gretchen, it is heartbreaking to me.

It is heartbreaking.

I don't think that, in these times that people want to get below the surface and see what's actually happening and.

Understand.

And understand.

I mean, I was just talking to Jaden yesterday, actually, and we were both lamenting that it's a quick hit.

Now, you want to hear from the influencer.

You want, you know, the 32nd soundbite, like, what are they saying?

And then move on.

And back in our day and my day we delve deeper.

Kevin, you know, it's I mean, we talked to people.

We wanted to make change.

We wanted to tell accurate stories, and we wanted to have people become emotionally involved.

And I think that's just, it's just heartbreaking that.

Yeah, I mean, it's part of what I've loved about this program and, and as a whole, as we've got the time and the opportunity to really get to know somebody.

Right?

It's if we're on any other network in northwest Ohio, this is, 3 to 4 minute interview.

We're surface level only.

You've got a press release, you've got an event coming up.

Let's set it.

You get out.

And then I'm on to the next thing.

Right.

Well, we're so happy that we meet Amy.

And already 15 minutes is for that one.

Yeah.

So let's get a quiz.

It's now time for Gretchen's quiz.

I'm gonna ask for rapid fire questions.

Gretchen is asking for your, one word to describe Toledo.

And you and Matt will list the nine best things in Toledo.

Question number one.

What gift would you most like to receive?

Money.

Done.

Good lord.

Where do you go when you want to be alone?

My bedroom.

What song have you listened to the most in the last week?

Stone roses waterfall every morning.

Yeah.

And only just because I don't even know what that is.

I lived in New York City for a very long time.

Went to Fordham.

Jay-Z.

Jay-Z.

All right.

Yeah.

Empire state of Mind, concrete jungles.

If you had to swap lives with anyone for a week, who would it be?

Michelle Obama.

More than a week.

I do it from.

Yeah.

Okay.

What is the one word you.

Swap you for?

Michelle.

All right.

I'm really happy for anyone.

Yeah, yeah.

Sorry.

Jay-Z or whoever the story is.

What?

Stone roses.

Just whatever you want.

I'm so happy for Stone rose.

What's the.

Last stone?

We could go on forever.

It's the one word you would use to describe the city of Toledo or the region.

Resilient.

Okay.

Love it.

All right, Bob, nine of your favorite things.

Let's do it, mommy.

Rivers.

Love it.

Flowing straight through our city.

Amazing restaurants.

This is about Toledo, correct?

Amazing restaurants.

Courageous, loving people who care about their community.

I've never been in a city that loves their city so much.

Just for beautiful park systems, we have.

Shout out to Joe Falls now.

He's doing an amazing, an amazing job.

And Metroparks, of course, of course.

Riverwalk.

Absolutely incredible.

I love our music vibe here.

All right.

Shout out to toll brand.

Jazz and jazz.

Back to the glass.

Same 99 mile an hour.

See what you got to go on and on.

I know that.

Amy.

Thank you so much for being here.

I might have to take a break.

When we come back, we'll be joined by Haifa Hailu with the Hospital Council of Northwest Ohio.

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Welcome back to the 419, powered by GT e. If you have no idea what Hospital Council of Northwest Ohio is, you may not be alone because you're with me.

I'm not entirely sure what the hospital council does, but we're joined now by Haley from Hospital Council.

What is?

I mean, aside from what it sounds like, what is the hospital council in northwest Ohio?

What what do you guys do?

So I have hospital council of northwest Ohio.

What we do is we help families, reach resources that they need, whether it's, maternal and child health, families in crisis or disaster preparedness.

We've been around for 54 years now.

It was formerly known as the Hospital Council of Northwest Ohio, and it's now the Health Council of Northwest Ohio.

So if you want to put the.

What if if I want to get the name right, I would say health council.

All right.

So I still all right.

So I still remember the hospital.

So in this health consortium of local hospitals that contribute to this, what is the Who makes up the council?

That's a great question.

So for right now, it used to be a, a consortium of hospitals and this is where it's like I'm four months in and.

Yeah, and you are not okay.

Yeah.

No no no you're good.

I mean it's putting but I think it's the reality is your focus is on the overall health across northwest Ohio.

So we are our main focus is to make sure that families, we serve, receive the care and access that they need in northwest Ohio.

Again, you know, we've had, single moms that have and she's got an 18 month old and a five year old, and she's gone through some sort of whether it was domestic violence or anything in her life.

And she needs the resources for her child diapers formula.

We meet them where they're at.

Yeah, we provide them the resources.

We make sure that they're stabilized, get them to where they need, and then they're able to move on.

No judgment.

I, I want to come I want to come back to this.

But you also have I mean, just you're a fascinating individual.

You're a dear friend.

But you are a Rotarian.

You are a former firefighter.

What?

Right.

So talk to me about.

Being very small fires.

You're not a very big human being.

I. I can handle it.

Yeah.

All right.

I could kill you.

So I I'm.

Where are you from originally?

And.

Yeah.

I mommy, born and raised so second oldest of seven kids.

Oh, my.

Gosh, mom and dad.

Immigrants.

My dad immigrated from Syria.

My mom immigrated from Lebanon, got married and had seven of us.

So is your least favorite sibling?

I'm just kidding.

No, we're all different.

Love them.

All right.

We all have different personalities.

The oldest girl, the.

No.

Okay.

You have an older sister.

Okay, okay.

Just checking.

Five girls.

Two boys.

Okay.

Wow.

What was the dream?

As a kid?

My dream was to become a trauma surgeon.

So you've always wanted to be in the thick of it?

I did, I mean, at my blood.

I kind of get it, but somebody else.

If there's trauma, I'm.

I'm in.

My.

Capacity.

And a tattoo is a little bit about the steps to where you are today.

I just found out that you were a fire person.

So it's a non-linear, path, but it sounds like service.

Yeah.

Is in your DNA.

So walk us through, with where you are today.

Oh, really?

Quick.

Graduated high school.

My uncle opened a restaurant which was one of the fine dining restaurants in Toledo.

The mango tree.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So he called me is I. Can you help me out for two weeks, 23 years later?

No, I was still there.

So my gosh.

So in that 23 year span, I became a firefighter, EMT.

And then I also worked for, paramedic.

Got a little hospital dispatched for, Ottawa Hills police, fire and EMS.

And so what do you how do you explain your lack of motivation?

Well, I love shoes.

So to buy.

Shoes, you need money.

I said common business.

I don't buy footwear.

Yeah, yeah, sorry about that.

I decided to save lives.

I like helping people.

Sure, but to.

To get more shoes.

The mango tree, for those of you who don't know, is has been on Reynolds Road or was on Rails Road for an eternity.

23 years.

It was a high end restaurant.

I can I have down there as a younger person.

And I remember driving by the sign, always having, high quality things being served there.

You were there.

For 23 years and did all these other things.

That's incredible.

Yeah.

I mean, there was a time and I was like, okay, I'm just going to do this for a little bit, and then I'm going to go back to college.

Yeah, it didn't happen.

I mean, I met the most amazing people working there throughout the city of Toledo.

Yeah, made great friends.

And then 2008 came.

Yeah.

You know, everything kind of plummeted.

People weren't spending money.

It's like, oh, I need to do something more.

And sure.

And I was like, oh.

And then one day I was traveling and there was an accident.

It was at, 795 and was at Oregon Road.

Yeah.

And I was like, I got out of the car and I was like, oh, how can I help police officers like direct traffic?

And I'm like, no, I don't want to direct traffic because I can't do anything else.

I'm like, no, he's like direct traffic.

I'm like, no.

And he goes, direct traffic.

I'm like, okay, yeah.

So I direct the traffic.

And after that I was like, you know what?

I'm going to go take the class, become an EMT so.

You can do it.

Yeah.

And the firefighter schedule is convenient in that you work a couple days and then you're off a couple of days.

So you could do both in theory, do both things.

Well, at that time I actually, got on which to me there isn't a difference between volunteer and paid, but I was on volunteer, so I never partied and I didn't drink, so it was like I got off of work and I was on duty at 11 p.m.

to.

Tell me what where did this come from?

I mean, they're to your point, volunteering, and being paid is a relative.

It sounds like it's almost irrelevant to you, you know, and not a lot of people have chosen to get out of the car, or some people would have been irritated by the just the disruption of their traffic pattern.

But where do you think this throw your hat in the ring spirit comes from?

My.

Parents tell me about that.

Yeah.

I mean, you're you're raised, you're you're born, you're created on this earth to help one another.

Right?

So we're here to serve.

Yeah.

Service above self.

We're we're all in it together.

Yeah.

I don't believe in gatekeeping.

I don't believe in, I'm better than you.

What do I have that you need?

You know, and I've seen that through my struggles.

I have a tribe of girlfriends that have seen me struggle through divorce, through raising her rambunctious seven year old, going on 20 years.

I mean.

I have a I have a seven year old also.

Yes.

We should get them together.

Yes, absolutely.

What's the name of your seven year old?

Naw, yeah, yeah.

Matt wants to cage fight.

Yes she does.

Okay, okay.

Yeah.

Mo I don't know.

Mo is my seven year old.

I'd be afraid of all I see.

I am afraid of Mo.

Yeah.

No, I think you should be afraid.

But you have.

Written on your paper, to create a lasting impact.

Talk to me about what that means to you.

Create lasting impact.

That is the new, the 2627 model for Rotary International.

So everything and anything we do, we need to create that lasting impact.

And it means if that means change needs to happen, whether it's in your organization, your daily life, your work, that's what's going to last.

People aren't going to remember what you wore or what you ate, or.

Even if they're great shoes.

Right?

Right, right.

I mean, maybe, maybe, but maybe.

The shoes could have an impact.

Yes.

They don't hurt.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's it's what you leave.

Yeah.

When you're gone.

Let's talk a little bit more about the health.

The health Council who tell us just like, just sort of some straight facts.

People that don't know who's eligible.

What is it?

Is it money only?

Is it services?

Is it referrals?

Like what?

Yeah.

What can someone who would be someone that should approach you for help.

So if you are a you have a family in need, if you are a single mom and you are struggling, you need formula, diapers.

There is a process.

We are we are not a crutch.

We provide the education for you to get to where you need.

We also provide those resources.

There's mentoring.

We've had, an unfortunate situation of I'm a mother of five that was in a domestic violence situation, and she needed resources and rental assistance.

There's obviously documentations and things that need to be provided, but they're there to help our programs like the Pathways Hub.

They said they're the ones that help.

We have our, natural, disaster preparedness, program also that helps if there's a crisis.

They also help with education, with fire and EMS in the community.

When you say natural disaster or we're talking about tornadoes or quite literally anything.

Tornadoes not too long ago, they also in assisted in evacuating the nursing facility.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So what how can the community get involved in and what you guys do do either volunteer opportunities I imagine you guys do fundraising.

We do.

We actually have an amazing golf outing coming up on August 7th.

I heard you guys were going to move your show to that morning to the golf course.

There you go.

I mean, it's a Friday.

That might be the most successful thing I ever do on a golf course.

So yeah.

I promise you, it's not playing.

Yeah.

I'm not.

I am a golfer, but not a great golfer.

But you know what?

It's about fun and camaraderie.

So that day it's it's not just about golfing.

It's about yeah everything is going to help fund these programs to help people in the community.

We've got some fun activities.

It's at Valley Wood on August 7th.

Okay.

Registration at 7:45 a.m.. Tee off at nine.

Nice.

We're going to have some great prizes.

We also have, one of our local members donated has us, house over and and Aruba.

Oh, wow.

So that's going to be one of our.

Raphinha's silent auction items.

That's a good silent auction item.

Yeah.

So that's going to be our silent auction item.

I really it's come out.

Have fun.

You're supporting these programs.

You're helping these families receive the resources that they need without judgment, meeting them where they're at.

Hi.

How are you?

I'm sorry.

How else are you funded besides fundraising?

So we do have an amazing group.

In, our organization that get the grants that submit, right?

The grants.

But that's how we're mainly funded.

So my position is now so philanthropic and development because most of those grants are restricted.

Yeah.

Of course.

So and there are, there are, there needs that you may need food because we all suffer with food insecurity housing insecurity.

And some of those grants don't help.

So we need some unrestricted funds to be able.

So when those families or individuals come to us in need, we can say, yes, we have these funds to help you.

But what do you do for fun?

What do I do for fun?

You're a mom.

You are, using your spare time to save lives.

So.

No one.

Yeah.

But still.

Yeah.

That's right.

I mean, I was hanging out in the Martin Luther King Junior Bridge last Saturday.

Yeah, there you go.

So that, that's a sign.

That was fun.

But what what do you enjoy about the area?

But what does downtime look like to you?

Oh my goodness.

Honestly.

It's shopping.

Yes.

Right.

I love to take the little one.

We go shopping?

Yes.

Tell me your best pair.

Your favorite pair of shoes you've ever purchased.

Where were they?

They're actually on my feet, right?

Yeah.

Those are a great pair.

Gretchen, can you just grab this pair of feature?

An animal print with some sparkles, and they're way too high heels for me because it would make me about 65.

Yeah, they're beautiful.

And you're a follower.

I am a I'm a tripper, for sure.

Yeah, I made that out.

Tripper for, FCC, rules.

But, that is an exciting, compilation of things a seven year old is both great, entertaining and also difficult to, if yours is like mine.

Thanks to her mom.

She's very smart, and that's a lot of questions.

I'm like, boy, I don't know.

What is something you do with here with your daughter that you would to to teach her about empathy for people that are in need, or how even, like, little kids can help get involved in their community.

I'm sure there's things that you do.

Yeah, that's a great question.

So it's being a single mom.

Sometimes you can't find sitters, right?

So I said to myself, self, just take her.

With you to rotary.

Right?

Yeah.

So I actually they inducted her as a young Rotarian volunteer.

So whether we have a fundraiser, I was just installed as my second term as president for Reynolds Cornish's rotary to use that over with.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So I'm so surface above self.

Yes.

And there's also pie there.

Oh my gosh.

Smucker's pie every Tuesday.

Yummy.

Yeah yeah.

So we'll talk about I mean so we've talked about Toledo Rotary certainly on the podcast and on this program through my involvement.

But there are a number of rotary clubs across Northwest Ohio, Reynolds Corners being one of the, the longstanding great clubs in our area.

What was it that drew you to rotary, that club.

And then, you know, of all the things that you could do with your time, right?

You're you're busy.

You're busy with work, you're busy as a mom, but then you say, you know what?

I'm also going to lead this great club now for two years.

It really is for service above self.

I saw the great things that they do, how they help the community.

They if there's an ask they provide and they don't talk about it right.

And then we just did the playhouse build.

Yeah.

Oh my goodness I amazing.

I was in.

Tears.

What does that.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Go ahead.

So the playhouse build is when, you know, different organizations, companies around northwest Ohio get together and they are giving they are given instructions on this family is requesting this certain playhouse.

So ours was a Bluey playhouse.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

So the materials are provided.

You have to put it together, paint it, design it, bring little things.

Are you handy?

Somewhat.

Okay.

Yeah.

It doesn't surprise me.

Yeah, somewhat.

Yeah.

And then the families bring in the kids, and then you just get to see the glow.

They probably just love it.

Yes.

Also, in terms of children's programing, it's no Daniel Tiger, but Bluey is a godsend.

Yes.

The other garbage.

Yes.

Yeah.

What is your least favorite thing your kid ever was interested in watching?

Oh my.

A K-pop demon hunter.

I don't know if Demon Hunters is the weirdest thing.

No, actually, it's not that great.

There is a bunch.

Lucy, my oldest loves to watch these YouTube videos of kids playing with toys and unwrapping them.

It was the most bizarre.

And she loved it.

And I was like, oh, maybe this is just a weird thing my kid was into.

And I started talking about people like, no, my kid watches that too.

That's the clip.

Yes, yes, yes, I my so weird.

My brother, my brother just had twins.

The reason why I was out is I was down visiting him and meeting the twins.

Not the way I told.

That's right.

No, you told a very different story.

But we, he's got a two year old, and so we got a chance to sort of, like, see her bedtime routine.

Yeah, and she watches some show that I remember what it is, but it was, like, educational cartoon type thing.

Yeah.

And we were like, all right, we've got some shows.

You got do what you do.

And so Bluey was one that they had never watched and was like, you got to watch this.

Yeah.

And then, Peg, plus Cat has maybe the greatest theme song.

Of.

Any children's program.

It is, a PBS program.

It is phenomenal.

I don't know if it's still.

The song is done by Slayer.

That's right, that's exactly right.

If people want more information on the Health Council of Northwest Ohio, where can they find it?

Go to our website.

So the HD and that org get Ahold of me.

I'd love to have some one to ones, and go from there, but I'd love to have the community come out and support our golf outing.

August 7th.

August 7th Valley Woods.

Valley Woods, 7:45 a.m.

registration nine MTF.

Awesome, I love it.

Thank you for thank you for.

Everything the community.

Thanks for the coffee.

Absolutely and time.

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When we come back, let's talk beer.

We'll be joined by Keith Snyder with 60 CC brewing.

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We're joined now by Keith Snider, the new owner of the newly reopened or soon to be reopened 60 cc brewing.

Keith, thanks for being on here.

Yeah, welcome.

Thanks for having me.

So talk to me if people are familiar.

Where is and what is 60 cc brewing?

Okay.

60 CC brewing, is a nano brewery with a taproom that's located in the Reynolds Corner neighborhood of Toledo.

It opened in 2021.

By Mike and Meghan Perry.

Founded the business.

They had a run for several years, and there were some, a lot of personal issues going on, and they just had to put the business up for sale last year.

Based on the amount of research Griffin has done, they're related to Steve Perry, the leader of journey.

I cannot confirm that.

They probably.

Are.

That they could get confirmation to me.

Yeah, yeah.

What is a nano brewery?

So, within the larger craft beer world, you sort of categorize them by how much beer they can make.

Okay.

And so a nano brewery is the smallest level.

Kevin.

That's how you refer to your journals.

Is there any correlation.

Between the two?

Wow.

No.

Especially since your surgery.

That's right.

Yeah.

Okay.

So 60 cc's, for the layperson or anyone that has not watched, er, you give me a little bit of background on the name itself.

So that's a reference to a small motorcycle engine.

Oh, so the theme is a small and vintage motorcycles.

So, so in the break.

In the break, Gretchen.

I thought it crashed.

Exactly what it was.

And having been in the brewery and knowing what it is, I knew that was entirely wrong.

And I was like, I'm gonna let it happen.

But I was excited for her to get it.

So when you're giving.

Someone a shot in a hospital.

Yeah.

Cubic centimeter.

Thank you.

It's a reference.

I knew a volume.

What?

I mean, so you are not a stranger to the craft brewery scene in northwest Ohio?

Matt?

You were, founder of earnest?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, foreign business partner.

We founded earnest, Brewers back in 2016.

So you're also an attorney?

Yeah.

That in a former life?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

All right.

Yeah.

What, what is it that got you into brewing?

Yeah.

I mean, you're a homebrewer.

I fell in love with craft beer shortly after turning 21.

It was a cool.

It was a very up and coming at that time.

Plenty of breweries to try regionally or even locally at the time.

Where were you?

Were you in Toledo or.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I was raised here and I was going through college and a law school at the time.

Did you have an moment?

I mean, there's not over romanticize it, but I do like to think of somebody who's an artist, which you are, taking a sip of something and having it say, well, this is, was there a single beer that, that drove this or just that conceptually?

Well, what really exposed me to the world, of complexity available for beers and for them to be respected as beverages just like wine or high end cocktails or distilled spirits would have been, Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald.

Okay.

It was one of the first times I had a beer that had that many layers of flavor and sort of said, wow, this is pretty cool.

And now I know why everybody's scrambling to try hundreds of different kinds.

But this is probably not by accident.

Right.

Talk to me a little bit about yourself in terms of layers and complexity.

Why does this fit sort of your personality?

Have you always been interested in how things are made?

Yeah.

Is it palette driven?

Do you like are you an entrepreneur?

All these things.

About you and why the transition into this was I've.

Always like, knowing how to take things apart, dissect them.

Interesting.

Around that same window, I also started doing a lot of home cooking.

Okay.

Got into cooking.

I worked in a small grocery store before, and specifically in the with the butchers side of things like grocery store and, it was a small grocery store in Rockford.

Okay.

Finest meat.

Sure.

And that was my Uncle Dan.

Yeah.

Okay.

And, what I realized by working it in that environment is I didn't know how to cook.

You know, I was I was working on my undergraduate degree at the time, and people would ask, well, what's the best way to cook that?

Or how would you do that?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

And so, you know, having access to all the, the food, all the cuts and everything else, I started to get more creative with what I was doing.

Personally.

Yeah.

And so that took me down.

The rabbit hole.

And when I fall in love with beer.

Yeah.

So how much different can making beer be for making.

Food, right?

And how much alcohol did it take to be able to consume your early cooking?

Probably a fairly fair amount.

That's fine.

Let's, let's say maybe 60 cc's.

Same way over 60 cc's.

Yeah.

Gretchen, that's how.

I get to Cuba.

That's the size of a motorcycle.

Yeah.

So talk to me about how you build.

You know, I'm really interested in.

We've talked to other folks that have a restaurant or brewery about how you build a menu, how you decide on different varieties of beer.

But I'm really interested in, especially with now having bought an existing brewery that will have customers and a brand and and recipes.

How how do you kind of build this and what is 60 C look like moving forward?

Yeah.

Great question.

So that's new to me too.

This is my first time ever purchasing a business.

You know, I've, I only built one in the past.

I worked for a couple small businesses.

I've seen dynamics of different sized businesses, but.

So I'm sort of writing it as I go.

I like paying homage to the brand and what it can be.

I also like, I think that the small brewery thing works best when it focuses on the immediate area around it.

It's a place where people can come and relax.

They can unwind.

People tend to not want to do their most casual stuff further away from home.

So, like, I expect, that we will get a good reception from the immediate neighborhoods around us and we'll generate a lot of good relationships from that.

So we want to be warm and inviting, to the neighborhoods.

Yeah.

As for brands and stuff, I like a lot of the things that Mike and Megan were doing.

But I also as a, as having a background in this, I'm going to put my own spin on it.

So we've kept some of the brands and we sort of just reinvented them with my own twist on them.

Walk us through that.

One example, is a beer called Wrap It Up.

Yeah.

And, it formerly was.

From the hospital volume.

That's right.

Gretchen starting to get the theme.

Yeah, I got yeah.

And that brand was was formerly an American style lager.

A bright yellow beer.

Meant to have quite a bit.

Yeah, well, we were putting a portfolio of beers together, me and my tapper manager and my, brewer.

And is it following the same pattern as the United States?

Having it be systematically dismantled?

I'm just kidding.

Not it's not good, Joe.

Well, I'm.

I'm in the rebuilding phase is rebuilding.

Yeah.

Even better.

And this beer in particular, we already had a good light yellow beer on in our menu that we were all agreed upon.

And so we said, well, what do we do with this one?

Because it sort of conflicts to have both of them on the portfolio at the same time and said, well, somebody said, well do what the name says, rev it up.

And so we.

Made it okay.

No you did.

No.

Okay.

No you can't make two of once.

Yeah okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's how my parents met.

So I'm just kidding.

So we took up the color.

We took up the alcohol, we took up the maltiness.

Nice.

Okay.

And it became a what's called a Vienna lager.

You mentioned you mentioned your brewery manager and brewer.

I mean, you've assembled a really impressive team.

Talk to you about who who you've added to the 60.

Yeah.

So, Paul, Paul Rudolph, he is, my brewer.

And, him and I both have the brewing background, but as you know, there's once you once you get the ball rolling, there's many other things to do besides actually making the beer.

Yeah.

And so I got to, you know, pull the strings from above and make sure everybody gets paid and the lights stay on that kind of stuff.

And so we talk it out.

Any given beer, any process, how I've asked want implemented.

And, then he executes.

And there are language among brewers.

You both having the experience.

I you know, I imagine you being there in the space and saying, you know, let's make this brighter or let's make this whatever.

And you both know what in your terminology, that word.

Means, it depends on your knowledge and experience.

But like I said, they're fairly similar our way.

So we're usually talking the same language, but we also bounce new ideas off each other.

This the the dynamic of a craft, brewery is a fascinating one to me because, and these are my words.

And not to make you uncomfortable, but you have a sophisticated palate and background in this space.

But you also have to keep the lights on and make payroll.

So as you are wanting to explore, experiment, put new things out there, it isn't necessarily what the common person that walks through your doors are.

He talks a little bit about the juxtaposition to satiating your experimental need and also, satiating the palate of just your everyday people.

That's a difficult thing to do.

Yes, it is.

And that's why there's, 13 facets on the wall.

When you walk in, you know, more options.

You can serve a wider variety of people.

And in line with that, with reopening the business, I also ventured into a new area that some some brewers don't know how to feel about.

And that's production of, hard seltzer and hard iced tea.

Some people think it's, you know, a, looks down upon the craft.

It doesn't use the same ingredients that you'd typically have in a beer.

It is amazing how we add elitism to anything.

Yes, but do.

You have a regular iced tea?

Yes, I do.

Okay, then I do too, because I want to be nice.

I do, but how do you like guys?

Iced tea drinkers?

Yeah.

Diet coke.

Yeah, I was down in down in Nashville for a week.

It was sweet tea.

Yeah, but that's not.

That's that's mostly sugar.

Yeah.

That's right, that's right.

Yeah.

That you have to chew.

Yeah okay.

That's fair.

All right.

So, so you've you're getting into the seltzers.

Yeah.

We're we're keeping them on the table as an option.

We want to have a seltzer and, hard a pickle vegetable at all time.

They've done well with, our few days of business and our soft openings that we've had so far.

Some of these.

A lot of these microbreweries have, don't have food, don't offer food items.

You can sometimes bring food in.

What's the vibe there in terms of people coming in for our food or snack?

So, couple things here.

So.

Well, we we're always open to people bringing your own food and, that that'll, that'll be that way until the health department says otherwise.

Don't tell.

Them.

Okay.

They don't.

What's the show?

As for right now, we have a snack menu.

A prepackaged snack menu.

Sure.

Bobby, the temple manager, have found a lot of as many local vendors as he could that we can easily get.

Very cool.

So we have wheel seats, nut.

And we have, the names, including me.

Now buy the pretzels out of, Michigan and, Faygo soda.

Yeah.

Faygo.

What's your favorite?

You've got some.

I like the rock and rye.

Hell, yeah.

Yeah.

That's the that's one that.

Is a great.

I don't know what's in there other than it has to be black tar heroin.

It is delightful.

What, is there a as you were getting into brewing kind of maybe in the early days or.

I mean, it could have been yesterday, right?

Is there a notable, like, fail that you're like, this is going to be great.

And then and all along the way you think it's working and then you taste it and you're like, this is terrible.

There's been a couple of those.

Most of those happened in the early days when you're when you're learning more about the process and like, what equipment is necessary for your, your version of the process and recipes.

Do you have them on your phone?

Are they like on, on post-it notes on the tanks?

Like where do you go to track?

Yeah.

Where do you keep track of what you're putting in?

So there's been a lot of good brewing software developed over the past 30 years.

And so I'm using, formulation software.

Got it.

And that accounts for all your equipment, and get you everything to the BTU and, you know, gallon and whatever else you want, they can take care of all the metrics as complicated as you want it to be.

We're talking with Keith Snyder with 60 cc brewery.

Matt, you would ask a question about like the sophistication of a pallet and all of this.

And I where I thought you were going.

I'm curious your take on this, especially as we talk about like, you know, we make elitism in anything, my good friends, recently past Aaron Krzanich from Patron Saints Brewing, referred to it as craft swill.

That basically said, like, every brewery has to make some insanely light beer, because that's what people like, right?

There's a reason why, button Bud Light or or number One Cellars.

What what is your take on that?

And how do you sort of meet people where they are and then get them to where you want them to be?

Okay.

So I don't take offense to that notion at all.

We have two beers on the menu right now that would arguably fill that gap where they're very approachable styles.

Light, refreshing, not overly complicated.

The first one is a beer called sinistra.

It's a, Czech pilsner, and Czech pilsner is basically the underlying traditional style behind American lox.

You know, immigrants in the 1800s brought those concepts to us and sort of recreated them the best they could.

And that's that's where some of those, you know, American lagers came from.

And so we have one of those on the menu so people can try a little bit of a different experience if they've never, had one abroad.

And then the second one we have, which also fits this bill, is a beer called about 20.

Since we're on route 20.

Yeah.

And that's an American style cream ale, which is a sort of similar notion that comes from the other family of beers.

The first one is lager, the second one is ales.

And so that is also a light beer that is formulated, but uses at least which has more versatility than and lager yeast from the production side.

Gretchen said before we started that she's, she likes a beer with a little bit of lemon.

What what do you recommend on your menu?

The only thing right now is the hard.

I see it actually has lemon in it.

Okay.

Done, done.

There you go.

All right.

Keith Snyder, 60 cc brewing.

Where's your location again?

We're at, 2113 North Reynolds Road, Toledo, Ohio.

Right there.

Reynolds and Bancroft.

Yes.

Right near, Smuckers.

Smuckers.

Oh, okay.

Got it.

Go get a pie.

Bring it over.

Yeah.

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Best of luck.

Are you guys officially opened yet?

Yes, we are officially open as of, a few days ago.

Nice.

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