Donnybrook
April 3, 2025
Season 2025 Episode 14 | 27m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Joe Holleman, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Bill McClellan.
Charlie Brennan debates with Joe Holleman, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Bill McClellan.
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April 3, 2025
Season 2025 Episode 14 | 27m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Joe Holleman, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Bill McClellan.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF "DONNYBROOK."
OUR LAST BEFORE THE BIG MAYORAL ELECTION.
LET'S MEET THE PANELS.
THE MEDIA VETERAN, WENDY WIESE.
BILL McCLELLAN, JOE HOLLEMAN AND FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, ALVIN REID.
BILL, YOU GOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE.
I WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT WENDY IS GOING INTO THE ST. LOUIS MEDIA HISTORY HALL OF FAME APRIL 23rd AT THE SHELDON.
TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE.
YOU DESERVE THIS.
THAT SHOULD BE A GREAT EVENING.
>> YOU KNOW HOW THAT FEELS.
IT'S VERY HUMBLING.
IT'S VERY OVERWHELMING.
I LOVE TO SEE AS MANY PEOPLE THERE AS POSSIBLE.
IT IS A FUNDRAISER FOR THE ST. LOUIS MEDIA HISTORY HALL OF FAME.
>> BILL, YOU GOT A FEW WORDS TO SHARE.
>> I LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR AND CORRECT A STATEMENT I MADE LAST WEEK.
I COME FROM THE MATTHEW McCULLOUGH SENTENCING, I SAID I THOUGHT YOU ROLLED OVER.
I BASED THAT ON THREE QUESTIONS AT THE END OF CROSS EXAMINATION.
I THOUGHT THE PROSECUTOR ASKED.
IT TURNED OUT THE JUDGE ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS.
NOT THE PROSECUTOR.
BY WAY OF EXPLANATION, THE COURTROOM WAS LIMITED TO RELATIVES OF THE DEFENDANT AND RELATIVES OF THE PEOPLE MAKING VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENTS.
IN THE SPILLOVER COURTROOM, YOU HAD A VIDEO FEED AND IT DID NOT SHOW THE JUDGE OR THE WITNESS BOX.
I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT THAT THE PROSECUTOR ASKED THE QUESTIONS.
I DON'T MEAN THAT IN THE WAY OF DEFENSE.
ALL THE OTHER REPORTERS IN THE SAME ROOM.
I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO MADE THE MISTAKE.
I APOLOGIZED TO MELISSA PRICE SMITH AND JESSICA HATHAWAY WHO WAS THE PROSECUTOR.
ELIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO ANY VIEWERS WHO WATCHED LAST WEEK AND THOUGHT I KNEW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
BECAUSE I DID NOT.
>> I OWE CHRIS KING AN APOLOGY.
I'M SORRY.
>> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
THIS WAS NOT MY DECISION TO OPEN THE SHOW WITH THIS.
YOU GUYS WANTED TO DO THIS.
FANTASTIC.
HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE JOURNALISM WORLD DO THAT?
>> ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> I CALLED RIPLEY.
JOE, THE MAYOR OF ST. LOUIS HAS BEEN PRETTY BUSY.
AS WE KNOW, SHE DID NOT DO TOO WELL IN THE PRIMARY, LOSING TO HER CHALLENGER, CARA SPENCER.
THEY FACE OFF AGAIN TUESDAY.
SENSE THEN, THE MAYOR HAS RAISED THE WORK HOUSE.
SHE'S OPENED THE DIGITAL CLASSROOM.
SHE GOT THE ENDORSEMENT OF ABORTION ACCESS.
THEN LAST WEEKEND, THE MAYOR OF CHICAGO IS HERE.
THE TWO WERE KNOCKING ON DOORS.
REALLY GOING FROM ONE DOOR TO ANOTHER TRYING TO GET THE VOTES.
ALL COMBINED.
WHAT DOES SOME HER EFFORTS MEAN SHE'S GOT A CHANCE OF WINNING REELECTION TUESDAY?
>> OF COURSE SHE HAS A CHANCE.
I THINK THERE'S NOTHING LIKE A 35 POINT LOSS THAT WAKES YOU UP TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE SOME WORK TO DO.
NOT ONLY ALSO ALDERWOMAN SPENCER IS OUT KNOCKING ON DOORS.
THIS IS CRUNCH TIME FOR BOTH OF THEM.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAGNITUDE OF THE LOSS THAT AN INCUMBENT MAYOR SUFFERED A MONTH AGO, THAT SHOULD WAKE YOU UP TO THE FACT THAT THIS ISN'T A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE OR THERE.
YOU NEED TO GET OUT AND KNOCK ON DOORS AND DO THINGS.
YOU BRING IN ALL YOUR CONNECTIONS AND FULL-COURT PRESS TIME.
I THINK THAT'S A SMART MOVE ON MAYOR JONES' PART.
SHE HAS A BIG CHUNK OF GROUND TO MAKE UP.
>> THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT VOTE THE FIRST TIME.
THAT WILL BE THE NUMBER THAT WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THE SIZE OF THE CHASM BETWEEN THEM AND THE PRIMARY.
I DON'T KNOW.
IT WON'T BE 30.
I CAN'T SEE SINGLE DIGITS.
I THINK SHE HAS A CHANCE.
>> IT WILL BE A STUNNING COMEBACK IF SHE OVERCAME THIS.
>> WE'VE SEEN WHERE THINGS HAPPENED AT THE BALLOT BOX.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE UNUSUAL.
TWO THINGS, JOE, YOU REPORTED ABORTION ACCESS.
HAS KIND OF SPLIT THE REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM MOUNT.
NOT ONLY ARE THEY SUPPORTING TISHAURA JONES, THEY'RE LAND-BASTED CARA SPENCER WHO WHETHER YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST ABORTION.
SHE'S BEEN FOR REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM.
MAYOR JOHNSON IS POPULAR MAYOR FROM CHICAGO.
I THOUGHT HE WAS A CURIOUS CHOICE.
>> HE'S MAYOR OF A MAJOR CITY.
HE'S BLACK.
HE CHECKS TWO BOXES.
IT'S JUST A REALITY.
>> IT'S THE VALUE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T FOLLOWING AROUND.
A LOT OF PEOPLE GO, THIS IS BRANDON JOHNSON.
HE'S THE MAYOR OF CHICAGO.
SHE GOT THE MAYOR OF CHICAGO IN HERE.
BRING IN ANYBODY FAMOUS >> I THOUGHT OF A BOOK ABOUT THE ABORTION RIGHTS THING WHEN ORWELL WAS FINDING.
THE BIG COMMUNIST BACK IN BARCELONA WAS FIGHTING OVER WHO WAS PURER AND ORWELL GOT WOUNDED.
HE ENDED UP HAVING TO FLEE NOT FROM THE FASCISTS BUT FROM THE COMMUNITYISTS.
-- COMMUNISTS.
>> ISN'T THAT FUNNY.
I THOUGHT OF THAT SAME BOOK.
[ LAUGHTER ] NO, I DID NOT.
>> WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT CARA SPENCER AND MAYOR JONES AS WELL, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT GETTING OUT THE VOTE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE MOST INTERESTED IN THE NUMBERS AND THE TURNOUT THAT DAY.
HOPING THAT EVERYBODY WILL -- >> BECAUSE IT WAS 17% TURNOUT IN THE PRIMARY.
WE GO TO THE COUNTY, WHERE THERE'S A MEASURE IN FRONT OF COUNTY VOTERS WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO FIRE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
LIKE THE HEAD OF PARKS AND RECREATION, STREET OR HEALTH.
NOT THE POLICE CHIEF, I BELIEVE AS THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE INSIST.
I THINK HE'S WRONG ON THAT MATTER.
HE'S OPPOSED TO THIS MEASURE.
THE COUNTY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO WHAT APPARENTLY LOOT OF MUNICIPALITIES AND STATE DO.
THEY ALLOW THEIR BOARD OF ALDERMEN OR CITY COUNCIL TO GET RID OF APARTMENT HEAD.
>> I'M SIDING WITH DENNIS HANCOCK ON THIS.
IT MAKES SENSE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.
IT HAS TO HAVE -- THEY TO HAVE TWO THIRD OF THE COUNTY COUNTY.
COUNCIL.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE ATTORNEY WITH THEM.
THE FACT THAT SYSTE SAM PAGE AGAINST IT, HE BELIEVES IT PREDICTS CHAOS IN THE WAKE.
GREATER ST. LOUIS INC. SAYING IT WILL POLITICALIZE COUNTY COUNCIL.
WHEN THE ST. LOUIS COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE OR THEY ISSUED THE RULING THAT IT WAS THE LANGUAGE WAS TOO CONFUSING AND THEN HE CAME BACK, NO IT'S NOT.
IT'S ALREADY POLITICALIZED.
THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS FOR.
>> THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO.
THE IDEA THE BOARD SAYING THEY NEED FIVE.
THEY ARE ALREADY ALIGNED AGAINST SAM PAGE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE CHAOS IF THE BOARD JUST SHOWED SAM PAGE A LESSON, STARTED FIRING THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
>> I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LOOK AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO STEP BACK AND SAY, LET'S NOT PASS ANY LAW THAT'S PACE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THESE CURRENT SET OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER.
THAT'S NOT NOT EVEN POLITICS.
THAT'S BAD POLICY.
HAS SAM PAGE BEEN EXEMPLARY LEADER OF ST. LOUIS COUNTY?
HECK NO.
HAS THE COUNTY COUNCIL BEEN EXEMPLARY BODY LEGISLATION?
HECK NO.
NEITHER ONE OF THEM SHOULD BE LIKE -- >> THERE'S SOME DYSFUNCTION.
>> YOU SHOULD NOT LEAVE IT UP TO THE COUNSELOR TO FIRE PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET FIRED BECAUSE THEY ARE SAM PAGE'S PEOPLE.
>> IT COULD REVERSE ITSELF IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GOT PROBLEMS WITH THE HEALTH DIRECTOR AND SOME OTHER -- YOU HAPPEN TO SIDE WITH THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
THAT'S COULD REVERSE ITSELF.
THERE COULD BE A DAY WHEN YOU LIKE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS VERY MUCH BUT THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS OUT OF CONTROL.
>> THAT DAY WILL COME SOONER OR LATER.
>> BILL, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT DOUG VAUGHN.
LONG TIME CHANNEL 4 REPORTER WHO IS ON 101 ESPN IN THE MORNING.
HE'S ON A PROGRAM MARTIN.
THEY MADE THE NEW YORK TIMES THIS WEEK.
VAUGHN LIFTED A RUMOR ON THE INTERNET AND RAN WITH IT.
AN OLE MISS STUDENT HAD AN AFFAIR WITH HER BOYFRIEND'S FATHER.
SHE'S DENYING THE ALLEGATIONS.
VAUGHN NOT ONLY RECREATED IT THROUGH SOME SORT OF DRAMATIC READING.
THE TEXT MESSAGES, WHICH HE FOUND OUT ON THE INTERNET.
IT WAS PART OF AN ON GOING SERIES CALLED "INFIDELITY" APPARENTLY, THE WOMAN AND HER LAWYER HAVE, DOUG VAUGHN AND RADIO STATION IN THEIR SITES.
NEW YORK TIMES CITED THEM WHO ALINE THIS COED.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?
DO YOU THINK THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, DOUG VAUGHN SHOULD DO WHAT YOU DO?
STAND UP THERE AND SAY, I'M SORRY.
IF HE'S NOT SORRY, DENY THAT HE DID IT?
OF COURSE, HE SHOULD APOLOGIZE.
I'VE BEEN WRONG A LOT.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHEN YOU'RE WRONG AND APOLOGIZE.
THIS MIGHT BE MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE MAYBE THEY HAD LEGAL COUNSEL WHO SAID YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
IT'S ALSO -- JOE WAS SAYING, RADIO.
THESE PEOPLE LIKE TO INSULT WOMEN.
OF COURSE, I THINK HE SHOULD APOLOGIZE.
I THINK WE LOOK AT THIS SITE, THIS IS BEING DETERMINED BY ATTORNEYS.
NOBODY ADMITS DOING ANYTHING WRONG HERE.
WE DON'T SAY A WORD ABOUT IT.
WE PRETEND LIKE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WHAT THAT IS, IT'S JUST TRASHY.
THE FACT THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT IN FIRST PLACE.
THE FACT THERE'S A SHOW CALLED INFIDELITY ALLEY SHOWS YOU THE LEVEL OF INTELLECTUAL ACUMEN THAT WE HAVE WORKING HERE.
THAT'S THE TITLE OF YOUR SHOW.
THEN YOU READ WHAT'S BASICALLY A SLEAZY STORY ABOUT A 19 OR 20-YEAR-OLD KID?
WHY?
WHAT WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO DO OTHER THAN TO TITTLE AT YOUR LISTENERS.
IT WAS DONE FOR THE LOWEST BASE PURPOSE.
IT SNAPPED BACK ON HIM.
IT'S BAD ENOUGH WHEN YOU HAVE THESE ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSIONS WITH THESE 20 SOMETHING SPORTS/BRO RADIO.
WHEN YOU GOT SOMEBODY LIKE DOUG VAUGHN, WHO I HAVE ALWAYS COMPARED HIM TO A GLASS OF MILK.
THE GUY IS ALWAYS BEEN JUST A WHOLESOME SPORTS CASTER.
SO, HE'S GOT KIDS.
I'M SURE THAT HE CAN DO IT AGAIN, HE WOULD RATHER THAT HE HADN'T.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE STUDIO ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY.
I DO HOPE THAT HE WILL DOWN THE ROAD, ONCE THE LAWYER SIGN OFF ON, APOLOGIZE.
KNOWING DOUG AND SITTING WITH HIM ON THE STAGE, IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW THAT DOUG KNOWS BETTER.
I THINK THAT IT WAS LIKE A MOMENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY OTHER THAN I LOOK FORWARD TO HIM SAYING, I BLEW IT ON THAT ONE.
I'LL BE CAREFUL.
>> IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES" ALLEGATIONS ARE TRUE.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD 101 EMS 101 ESPN INDICATES.
THIS REPORT SAYS THE -- >> THEN, ALSO, THE STORY IS NOT TRUE.
I THINK IT'S BEEN PROVEN THAT IT IS NOT TRUE.
THAT'S CORRECT.
>> WHAT DID DOUG ACTUALLY SAY, WE DON'T KNOW.
>> I DID NOT HEAR IT.
ALL I READ WAS A "NEW YORK TIMES" ARTICLE.
>> IN THIS WORLD FROM THE WHITE HOUSE TO HOWARD STERN SHOW.
THERE'S NOT MUCH EVIDENCE THAT YOUR CAREER IS HURT WHEN YOU LOSE GOOD TASTE.
>> I DON'T THINK, ULTIMATELY, HE WOULD LOSE HIS JOB OVER THERE OTHER THAN IF THEY GOT SUED.
>> THE WHOLE SHOW IS NEW.
>> IT'S NOT ANYTHING NEW.
WHAT WE FOUND OUT NOW IS AN ESPECIALLY WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH HAS JUST ABSOLUTELY IS ANY RUMOR, ANY HOT TAKE IS FAIR GAME.
LET'S TALK ABOUT IT AND LATER GO, OH WELL, THAT WASN'T TRUE.
>> SORRY.
>> REMEMBER BEN THOMAS EVENING WORLD.
HE HAD A STANDING FEATURE, THAT SOUNDS LIKE INFIDELITY ALLEY.
>> I WAS WORKING SATURDAY MORNING WITH JARED SANDUSKY GOT ARRESTED AT PENN STATE.
I REMEMBER READING THAT.
EVERY TEN SECONDS I SAID I'M READING THIS FROM A REPORT ESPN AND THE POLICE.
I'M THINKING SOMEBODY WILL GET IN THEIR CAR WITH THEIR KIDS GOING TO SOCCER PRACTICE THIS MORNING.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I HEARD JERRY SANDUSKY DID.
>> THE THIRD RAIL.
>> I MUST SAY BETWEEN REFERENCES TO HL MINKON AND GEORGE ORWELL.
>> ALVIN REID.
WE'RE WAITING FOR YOUR LITERARY REFERENCE.
THERE WAS A TRAGIC STORY THIS PAST WEEKEND, I BELIEVE IT WAS SUNDAY NIGHT.
A 4-YEAR-OLD PASSENGER OF A MOTORCYCLE WAS KILLED WHEN THE MOTORCYCLE DRIVER, APPARENTLY, 4-YEAR-OLD MOTHER'S BOYFRIEND CRASHED IN A UTILITY ROAD ON MEXICO ROAD.
THE 4-YEAR-OLD DIED.
THERE ARE SOME STATES, INCLUDING SOME RED ONES LIKE LOUISIANA, ARKANSAS, TEXAS, THAT HAVE MINIMUM AGE REQUIREMENTS FOR MOTORCYCLE PASSENGERS.
YOU GOT TO BE AT LEAST FIVE.
IT'S ALSO TRUE IN HAWAII AND WASHINGTON.
DO YOU THINK WITH THIS TRAGEDY, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME CAL CALVIN SPURLOCK LAW, WHERE PASSENGERS OF A MOTORCYCLE BE AT LEAST FIVE FINANCIAL FIVE?
>> I THINK IT WILL FAIL.
I DON'T THINK THEY WILL PASS THAT LAW.
IT'S RIDICULOUS.
I DO NOT SEE THIS STATE TAKING THAT ACTION.
>> THERE ARE NO LIMITS ON ATVs.
WE HAD STORY BEFORE WITH THIS STORY.
THEY WERE BOTH WEARING THEIR STORY.
I WOULDN'T BE HAPPY WITH A 5-YEAR-OLD LIMIT.
I WOULD SAY 12, 11 OR 12-YEAR-OLD LIMIT NED OF FIVE.
>> THIS IS A STATE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A HELMET TO RIDE ON A MOTORCYCLE.
>> MAYBE IT'S MY WISHFUL THINKING.
I BELIEVE A LAW WILL BE CHANGED.
FOR ONE, NOBODY EVER CONFUSED ME WITH A PERSON WHO WANTS MORE GOVERNMENT.
NO ONE PUT ME DOWN ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROOM.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS A RULE.
I REMEMBER WHEN I SAW THE STORY, I THOUGHT, OH MAN, THEY MUST HAVE GOT THIS GUY FOR ENDANGERING THE WELFARE.
I REALIZED WE DON'T HAVE A RULE.
BUNCH OF OTHER STATES DON'T HAVE RULES.
I LITERALLY WAS SURPRISED.
I THOUGHT TO ME, IT MAKES SO MUCH COMMON SENSE, FIVE, SIX, EIGHT.
MY GOSH.
AMUSEMENT PARK WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE THIS TALL TO BE ON THERE.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING FOR THAT.
WHAT I'M HOPING IS, I CAN SEE ALVIN'S POINT, I DON'T LIKE SEEING RIGHTS TO BRIDGE.
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A CHILD ON A MOTORCYCLE.
I HOPE THAT THE MISSOURI LEGISLATURE UNDERSTANDS AND THAT BECAUSE POLITICIANS ARE ALWAYS SWAYED BY WE'RE DOING IT FOR THE KIDS.
I'M HOPING THEY DO CHANGE THE LAW.
>> FROM WHAT I READ.
THIS CHILD HAD BEEN ON ANOTHER MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT BEFORE THIS ONE.
THIS LED ME TO BELIEVE, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A LAW.
TWO, JUST THINK ABOUT HOW MANY KIDS HAD BEEN INJURED IN THIS WAY.
LET'S SAY OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS.
YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT SOMEBODY SAID, WHY ARE KIDS ON THE BACK OF MOTORCYCLES ANYWAY?
I GUESS MAYBE IT TOOK A DEATH, UNFORTUNATELY, TO ACTUALLY -- >> BILL McCLELLAN, SPEAKING OF ROADWAYS, THERE WAS A MEETING YESTERDAY IN JEFFERSON CITY, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THE LEGISLATURE SHOULD CREATE A COMMISSION TO EXAMINE THE NUMEROUS BILLBOARDS IN THE SHOW ME STATE.
YOU DRIVE DOWN HIGHWAY 70, YOU SEE A LOT OF BILLBOARDS.
THIS IS REALLY PROMULGATED BY A GROUP CALLED SCENIC MISSOURI.
THEY LOOK AT THE HIGHWAYS AND THE PLANT MATERIAL, TREES, FLOWERS ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAYS.
DO YOU THINK IT'S TIME FOR A STUDY LIKE THAT?
>> WELL, I DON'T MIND THE BILLBOARDS.
I KIND OF ENJOY WHEN YOU GO DOWN 44 AND YOU SEE BARNES, THE MERAMEC CAVERN, JESSE JAMES STAYED HERE.
ALL THE BILLBOARDS AREN'T THAT GOOD.
IN THE OLD DAYS IT WAS SHAVING CREAM.
THOSE WERE KIND OF FUN.
I DON'T MIND THE BILLBOARDS.
IF SOMEBODY CAN MAKE SOME MONEY BY LETTING THE COMPANY PUT BILLBOARD ON THEIR PROPERTY, I'M NOT OBJECTING TO THAT.
>> I WILL SAY, WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH WEST VIRGINIA OR INDIANA AND OTHER STATES, ARIZONA, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU JUST SEE THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE.
I THINK IT ENHANCES THE STATE.
THE BILLBOARDS ARE ONE THING.
I THINK SCENIC MISSOURI SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON THE LITTER.
WHY NOT PUT SOME MISSOURI WILD FLOWERS ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.
INSTEAD OF THE CONCRETE RIP RAFT.
I THINK THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
I DON'T WANT TO CHANNEL MY INNER MRS. LBJ.
>> I AGREE WE COULD.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO DO IS SPEND A MILLION DOLLAR ON A COMMISSION.
TO DO WHAT?
TO SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID?
NOW WE'RE GOING TO APPOINT A COMMISSION THAT'S GOING TO LUNCH AND DINNER A LOT.
TELL US, WELL, THEY'RE GOING COME UP WITH SOME REPORT THAT WILL TELL US EVERYTHING WE ALREADY KNEW.
I GOT TO SAY, I'M LIKE BILL.
I DON'T MIND BILLBOARDS.
I'M NOT OFFENDED.
PEOPLE GOES IT DESTROYS THE SCENIC BEAUTY AND IT'S A DANGER.
YOU LOOKING AT THE BILLBOARD OR THE SCENERY.
WHEN I PREFER YOU LOOK AT THE ROAD.
>> I THINK THAT SCENERY IS LITTLE MORE SPECTACULAR.
I LIKE DRIVING DOWN 44.
I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE THE BEST SCENERY IN THE COUNTRY.
>> IT'S NOT BREATHTAKING.
IT IS VERY PRETTY.
>> WE LIVE HERE.
WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME.
>> I PROBABLY MADE THE DRIVE BETWEEN THE KANSAS CITY AREA AND ST. LOUIS.
I DO REMEMBER THAT THERE WERE NO SIGN.
I'M NOT APPALLED BY THE SIGN.
THIS IS NOT THING THAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL NOT TELL THESE PEOPLE WITH LAND THEY CANNOT PUT A BILLBOARD UP THERE.
>> I'M MUCH MORE CONCERNED WITH THE LITTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
EVEN THE BILLBOARDS.
>> WE DID PUT IN DAFFODILS AT 64/40.
YOU CAN SEE THEM NOW.
THEY ARE BLOOMING.
I HOPE PEOPLE ENJOY THEM.
WENDY, WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE TO GO.
MODOT DECIDED TO ARE MOVE THOSE BUMPOUTS, THOSE TRAFFIC CONCRETE ISLANDS ON CLARKSON ROAD IN CHESTERFIELD.
ARE YOU HAPPY OR SAD?
>> I'M HAPPY.
I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE TOM BLAIR WHO'S THE DISTRICT ENGINEER FOR MODOT, HE SAID THAT THIS IDEA WHEN IT WAS FLOATED, ALL $58 MILLION WORTH.
IT WAS PART OF A LARGER PROJECT, HE SAID THERE WASN'T ANY ALLOWANCE MADE FOR PUBLIC OPINION.
PEOPLE APPARENTLY THINK, GOOD BEN KEITHLEY.
CITY COUNCILMAN OUT IN CHESTERFIELD -- SORRY STATE REP.
HE SAID PEOPLE ARE UP IN ARMS.
THEY CAN'T GET HIM OUT OF THERE FAST ENOUGH.
THEY WILL BE GONE SOON.
>> DO YOU HAVE TO JACKHAMMER THOSE THINGS OUT OF THERE?
[ LAUGHTER ] >> I DON'T KNOW.
>> THAT WILL BE NICE.
PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE NOISE.
>> PEOPLE WERE VERY UPSET.
>> ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR THERE WAS NO PUBLIC INPUT.
NOW THE PUBLIC GOT THE INPUT.
>> MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE WRITING ABOUT AT THE CONCERT.
LET GO TO THE MAIL BAG.
CHARLIE EXPRESSED SURPRISE THAT THE COST PLUS NATURE OF THE F47 CONTRACT.
THIS IS NORMAL IN DEFENSE PROCUREMENT SINCE THE CHIP'S DEVELOPMENT RISK TO THE GOVERNMENT.
IT HAS TO SHARE THE DEVELOPMENT RISK.
JOHN KIP OF CHESTERFIELD.
WE HEARD FROM RAY OF CHESTERFIELD.
I WAS APPALLED BY THE "DONNYBROOK" RELATING TO THE AIR FORCE AWARD.
BOTH -- THANK YOU, RAY.
WE HEARD FROM PATTY SMITH OF KIRKWOOD.
WHEN MATT McCULLOUGH FIRED THE SHOTS HE PUT THE CHILDREN AND FAMILY AT RISK FOR INJURY AND DEATH.
BEN FROM HAZELWOOD, WITH THE UNDERSTAND THAT CHARLIE IS THE PROVOCATEUR, HEARING HIM COMPARE THE INCIDENT SAYING, HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOOT GUNS IN THE AIR.
WHAT?
I HAVE WATCHED ENJOYED "DONNYBROOK" FOR MANY DECADES.
TONIGHT, MAYBE THE LAST TIME I CAN STOMACH THIS NONSENSE.
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